This week on the podcast we talk to Lilian Galinoma (Makau), who is a Talent Manager at Tanzanian Breweries (recently taken over by AB InBev) about what it means to pursue a feminist agenda in the workplace and how she has developed a forum for women within the company to support female employees and help the company to engage with the issues that matter to them.

On this episode of Change Making Women we interview Grace Mdemu, a Mentor in the Global Give Back Circle who is also an Auditor, Mother, Entrepreneur and Poet.


    • Grace Mdemu tells us how mentoring a girl who was at risk through the Global Giving Circle has enriched her life as well as that of her mentee
    • She explains how the programme works, why she’s so committed to it and the change that it creates and how she would love to see the programme grow and reach more girls.
    • We also talk about how she fits being a Mentor in to her busy life as a Auditor, Mother, Entrepreneur and Poet and how she finds time to take a break for herself.

Some Quotes from the show:

 ‘Seven years down the line, my mentee, to me, is like the little sister I never had, we are still going strong’

‘The only difference between us and the girls is opportunity, so I know these are the leaders of tomorrow’

‘You have to believe in yourself to be a mentor, you are there to guide and you talk about relationships, religion everything, they come to trust you.’

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  • How Ziada and Mary Ann personally pick themselves up when they fall
  • Why you have to get used to not letting your critical voices ‘drive your life’
  • How you motivation has to start from within and true passion if you want to stay the distance
  • How setbacks and obstacles are always part of the journey to bring your ideas to life
  • Why feeling your feelings can be your friend

Some quotes from the show:

‘It has to start from within because if you don’t see the end of it it becomes very difficult to be motivated’

‘At sometime you are going to think to yourself, why am I doing this, this is too difficult’

‘How you pick yourself is what determines whether you succeed’

‘There is always a part of you that internalises those negative voices and wants to keep you safe in someway’

‘You can choose to notice it and choose to say you know what, I hear you and I am going to carry on anyway’

‘whichever route you decide to take you are going to meet obstacles, there is no easy way out’

‘If you do something a bit different and a bit innovative and a bit unusual, then you will have more of these challenges’

‘You’ve got to develop your way of coping’

‘If I have a real set back I allow myself a day or two now to be really upset, rather than pretending I am not’

‘Let it be what it is, allow yourself to feel that defeat and pick yourself up from there’

‘It’s along journey from an idea to a successful business or project’.

‘You have to have quite a few setbacks to build your I’m gonna do it anyway muscle’

‘You can’t allow your internal critical voice to drive the car, you have to put them in the backseat’

This is the second of a two part launch episode in which we introduce you to the women behind Change Making Women.


  • What Nia is and how it has cured Mary Ann’s problems with her back
  • Working on disability and children and young people as Director of AbleChildAfrica
  • Working on mental health and illness in Tanzania as Regional Representative for BasicNeeds
  • Getting burnt out trying to make a difference
  • The on-line community Mary Ann is working to establish for Change Making Women
  • How making a difference can start where we live
  • What food Mary Ann says she could eat for the rest of her life!

Some quotes from the show:

On finding Nia –
‘I’m in her class and I’m like, I wanna do this, this great, I love it, I love it!’

On teaching Nia:
‘I tell my students, here’s a movement, but follow your body’s way with it, so if that doesn’t feel go for you, adjust the movement….
Get used to how the music makes you wants to move and just feel your way with it’

‘It’s a really go balance with a lot of the other stuff I do which is more in your head’

‘For me personally, it was just like, I can’t do this anymore, there is mixed feeling on the inside’

‘Maybe I don’t actually have to take so much responsibility on myself and think that this is all my thing to solve’

‘What I am really wanting to do now is really support other people that are working in the NGO sector to really kind of basically look after themselves so that they do have the energy’

‘People always look from the outside and they load this ‘your so amazing’ thing on you but the reality of your work can still be hard work, a lot of travel, and a lot of not being with your family and personal struggle’

‘I am working on setting up a community for women who want make a difference which will offer them support so that they can kind of make sure that they are doing their work to make a difference in a way that’s healthy for them – It’s giving people a bit of space to step back from the daily grind of their work’

‘If you wanna make a change you don’t have to travel a thousand miles you can just start with your neighbour’

‘I do miss the food, I could eat Pilau and Chapatis for the rest of my life!’